Very grindy. Took me 12 hours to get the SU-47 and SU-33, and earning zoll is very slow.

it's not too bad. i have two level 10s, two level 5s, and one above level 10 with less time than the campaign took. maybe 10 hours multiplayer? not sure what the max level is tho, probably 20, cannot be more than 25 i reckon

The grind is INSANE and definitely tilts towards P2W.

Yes

honestly the grind is quite insane and how i wish they increase the coop mission lenght it feels too short for me

yea the zoll payout is quit low

Originally posted by Fastspectre:

yea the zoll payout is quit low

pvp pays more zoll

Originally posted by ROFLES:

pvp pays more zoll

Yeah I'm not touching pvp with a stick. I wouldn't even play warfare if dailies didn't require it.

You can't buy ZOLL (for buying the plane BP) so there is no P2W element in the game. It's just GRINDY AF.

the only pay to win is the battle pass, which gives you a pittance of progress with a small number of blueprints

I'm thinking those in this thread aren't true ace pilots. not playing pvp? complaining about having to play too much AC? crying because pvp is scary? get gud nuggets

You need 250 matches played to reach max lvl.

Originally posted by Ragvard Grimclaw:

Originally posted by ROFLES:

pvp pays more zoll

Yeah I'm not touching pvp with a stick. I wouldn't even play warfare if dailies didn't require it.

pvp isnt even that bad, at least half the games I can just focus on ground targets while everyone else is dogfighting and I end up the MVP because I get 3x score multipliers from being an ignored ace for so long and getting my team the win.

It's funny you mention the upgrade blueprints as P2W when you're only using the earned currency to purchase them. Technically not P2W because there's the lack of credit card swiping to upgrade planes (thank god). Definitely a huge grind but it keeps player retention in the online mode in a roundabout way.

Originally posted by Okureya:

It's funny you mention the upgrade blueprints as P2W when you're only using the earned currency to purchase them. Technically not P2W because there's the lack of credit card swiping to upgrade planes (thank god). Definitely a huge grind but it keeps player retention in the online mode in a roundabout way.

Agreed, ppl needs tostop confussing at this point P2W (which this game is not) with P2F (Pay to Fast) which allows you to unlock things earlier but with no need to put real money into it, only in-game currency.

So far, everything shown at the in-game store are cosmetics and emoticons for the chat.

Since there are only level 1 quests at the moment, the entire multiplayer game is just an empty shell, like killing chickens at the village entrance to level up.