Commie planes, commie gains.

yeah I reckon it's really just in there as a joke aircraft
fun though right?

there's clearly a western bias, just look the special weapons on them and eastern ones lmao

Originally posted by Massivive:

yeah I reckon it's really just in there as a joke aircraft
fun though right?

Not fun at all. I'm trying to do a machinegun only run while also using attackers only, for the campaign medals. On Mission 15, the F-15E keeps up nicely but its damage is low. The Su-25 is somehow the only attacker with MGPs, but the plane doesn't have 4 parts slots to boost speed+acceleration, top speed, roll, and overall maneuverability. I'm willing to bet the MiG-21bis is a much better MGP choice, but it's a fighter category.

Originally posted by Cloak:

there's clearly a western bias, just look the special weapons on them and eastern ones lmao

Su-57 has QAAMs, and Su-35 is the best plane to farm MGP in Mission 16.

Originally posted by Ras-pica:

Originally posted by Cloak:

there's clearly a western bias, just look the special weapons on them and eastern ones lmao

Su-57 has QAAMs, and Su-35 is the best plane to farm MGP in Mission 16.

Low tiered MiG-21 also has SASMs. Only one that early to have it, I think.

It was fun fighting Shadow 22 and his boys with the SASM fitted MiG-21. Way, way easier than me trying F-22 in that same fight.

Update: I cleared Mission 15 with the Su-25, used both slots on top speed/acceleration and just studied and predicted the scripted paths to optimize shooting windows to compensate for the incredibly poor mobility. F-15E's gun damage was just way too low.

If anyone else ever considers doing gun-only, attacker-only, no-damage all at the same time for 3 campaign medals, that's your answer. Memorize the Ladons' turns, focus one down, and don't worry about the surviving one's UAVs and CIWS (the guns shred them easily). And general advice for if you use missiles, you instead want to damage both planes at the same time so that by the time one is destroyed, the other doesn't throw UAVs/CIWS at you for long. You still want to gun those UAVs/CIWS anyway, before proceeding to spam more missiles.

Originally posted by Cloak:

there's clearly a western bias, just look the special weapons on them and eastern ones lmao

Much like reality then lol

Originally posted by Fawx:

Originally posted by Cloak:

there's clearly a western bias, just look the special weapons on them and eastern ones lmao

Much like reality then lol

Indeed. Reality itself has a western bias.

It is a challenge aircraft Ace combat alway had those. So yes it sucks a bit on purpose.
Tho you can make it decent with part but AC6 had a lot worst craft.

Originally posted by Hank Da Silva:

Commie planes, commie gains.

Commie women have best Commie sex

Yet SU-34 is still the best attacker.

I'd disagree, but I haven't used the SU-25 yet, but the A-10 is the worst plane, especially in the two missions that I thought it would be fine in, except that they are timed missions, so a slow af plane like the A-10 was NOT a good choice and caused more headaches than necessary. The two missions I'm referring to are the battle with the first landship and the third fake one where you have to clear out everything withing a few minutes, which doesn't work well with slow planes, and I love the A-10. I may be misremembering it but I don't think it was THIS slow in previous games, like AC7 and AC5.

what do you expect it's russian

Originally posted by RaggingFloatzel:

I'd disagree, but I haven't used the SU-25 yet, but the A-10 is the worst plane, especially in the two missions that I thought it would be fine in, except that they are timed missions, so a slow af plane like the A-10 was NOT a good choice and caused more headaches than necessary. The two missions I'm referring to are the battle with the first landship and the third fake one where you have to clear out everything withing a few minutes, which doesn't work well with slow planes, and I love the A-10. I may be misremembering it but I don't think it was THIS slow in previous games, like AC7 and AC5.

No you're correct. I never crashed as many times as I did with the A-10 in any previous game and that was with the right aircraft mods to help me.