Letter to TIP users-2

B. Cosell; D.C. Walden

doi:10.17487/RFC0386

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Network Working Group                    Bernard P. Cosell
Request For Comments # 386               David C. Walden
NIC # 11358                              Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.
Categories:                              August 16, 1972
Updates:
Obsoletes:

LETTER TO TIP USERS -- 2

This is the second letter to TIP users. The first was RFC #365.
There will be more letters to TIP users as they seem to us to be a good way to keep you informed about what's going on. We suggest you keep these letters with your TIP User's Guide (TUG) as we will use the letters to provide documentation of TIP system changes which are made before we can get TUG revisions printed and distributed. (It is almost inevitable that the TUG revisions follow actual system changes. Further- more, these letters will allow us more discussion of new commands than in TUG.)

Some of the changes we will be making to the TIP have been
suggested by TIP users. We won't bother with acknowledg- ments.

The @PROTOCOL TO LOGIN and @PROTOCOL TO CLOSE BOTH commands will
be removed very soon. We presume no one uses these commands any more since they have been replaced by @LOGIN and @CLOSE.

As we warned in TIP Letter 1, the @LOGIN command will be given a
parameter soon, the Host number up to now given with the @HOST command. At the same time, @HOST will be changed so it does a simultaneous @RECEIVE FROM HOST and @SEND TO HOST. Presently, @HOST is the same as @SEND TO HOST.

Several changes will be made to the @TRANSMIT commands very soon.
First @TRANSMIT ON NO CHARACTERS and @TRANSMIT ON EVERY CHARACTER will be removed. Their functions will be covered by the other @TRANSMIT commands. @TRANSMIT NOW will continue to function as at present; it will cause the one message presently being accumulated to be sent as soon as possible. @TRANSMIT ON LINEFEED and @TRANSMIT ON MESSAGE-END will continue to cause the message being accumulated to be sent on linefeed and CONTROL-S. However, they will additionally cause the message being accumulated to be sent when the character buffer is almost full. Thus, it will no longer be necessary to give a @TRANSMIT EVERY <big number> with @TRANSMIT ON LINEFEED and @TRANSMIT ON MESSAGE-END. @TRANSMIT EVERY # will continue to cause the message being accumulated to be sent as near as possible to every #th character. However, values of # which are bigger than the size of the input buffer will cause transmission when the buffer is almost full; and a value of 0 for # will reset the terminal to its initial setting -- TRANSMIT-ON-LINEFEED mode off, TRANSMIT ON MESSAGE- END mode off, and transmitting every character. Thus, TRANSMIT EVERY 0 has the effect of the removed @TRANSMIT ON NO CHARACTER command, and @TRANSMIT EVERY 1 has the effect of the removed @TRANSMIT ON EVERY CHARACTER command.

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RFC # 386                                                     NIC #11358

There are two ways outside of letters and the telephone to
communicate your suggestions and complaints to us: log into BBN-TENEX and SNDMSG to WALDEN or use the NIC Journal system to send a message to DCW3. Dave likes letters best, incidentally.

We are going to remove the "NEWS" herald from the TIP's HELLO
message. The problem is that we don't know when everybody has read the latest news so that we can turn off the herald. Therefore, we can't turn it off. Therefore, it is useless. Check the NEWS every time you use the TIP. If once the news begins printing you discover you have already seen it, you can stop it by typing @CLOSE _LF_ (on a 2741 hit "attention" first).

A new TIP message will have been added by the time you get this
letter, the message TIP GOING DOWN. This message will be printed on every TIP terminal shortly before the TIP is taken down for preventive maintenance, new software releases, etc. (see RFC #381 for further discussion of this topic). When this message is printed, all TIP users should cleanly stop what they are doing with a Host. Eventually, this message will include information on how long until the TIP will go down, for how long it will be down, and why.

While we are on the subject of TIP messages, let us mention that
we will be adding a number of new messages which we believe will remove some of the present confusion about what the TIP is doing. Unfortunately, we don't have the space to store the message text strings, so, we will use numbers for the new messages. The format of these messages will probably be something like M46 for message 46. Perhaps when the TIPs get more core we can replace the number-messages by text-messages.

We are thinking of changing all the TIP LOGIN commands to OPEN
commands which would be more opposite to the CLOSE commands and not so liable to confusion with Host LOGIN.

On page 12 of the TUG is a description of how Hosts can send
commands to a TIP terminal. Be warned, if you decide to use this facility, that we are changing the TIP command language slowly and we will not be constrained in these changes by the fact that some Hosts are sending TIP commands. Therefore, if a Host is going to send a command to a TIP it ought to implement this in a manner that can be changed easily.

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RFC # 386                                                     NIC #11358

Some TIP users have been seeing the following problem. They are
communicating with a Host when suddenly they get the message DEAD. If they try to LOGIN to the Host again they do not get the DEAD message, but the Host refuses to allow the LOGIN by either doing nothing, closing, or refusing. The problem was that occasionally the network partitioned briefly; for instance, one of the two cross-country lines was down and the other got flaky for a few seconds. If, during a period when the network is partitioned, a TIP user sends a message to a Host which cannot be reached, the TIP types DEAD and closes the connection to the Host. The Host, on the other hand, may not have been trying to send to the TIP when the network partitioned; in that case it might not have noticed that the network partitioned and therefore still thinks it has an open connection to the TIP. When the TIP then tries to re-LOGIN to the Host, the Host refuses because it already has an open connection with that particular TIP device.

Now that we have three independent cross-country paths we do not
expect this problem to occur often, but if it does we see no short-term solution. We can't just let a CLOSE reset the connection since the user's immediately preceeding LOGIN destroyed the Host supplied socket numbers. One can get out of this state by executing the Host/Host protocol command from the TIP which resets _all_ TIP users at the given TIP talking to the given Host; but this is a little gross. What is maybe needed is a Host/Host protocol command to reset the Host's connections with a particular user (TIP) socket; we will try to understand the ramifications of such a command and perhaps undertake promotion of a Host/Host protocol change. In the meantime, frequently when the above problem happens some other TIP terminal can still LOGIN to the Host and then halt the hung terminal's job from the Host side. If it is not possible to get through on another connection, a telephone call to the Host, asking them to log the job out, may be necessary. Or, if there is really no other user talking to the particular Host, the reset command can be executed -- this command is not documented but we will tell a responsible person at each TIP site how to execute the command.

There is a problem related to the above problem which some TIP
users have seen. Occasionally, an IMP crashes somewhere in the network and takes a packet of a message along with it. Eventually, the source of the message gets an incomplete transmission message from the network. When the TIP gets this message, it closes the connection and calls the destination dead. This is what most other Hosts do also, we understand. A more reasonable thing to do might be to retransmit the message or to tell the user and then let him continue; we would like to do one of these. But before retransmission or letting the user continue, the TIP and Host's allocate counters must be resynchronized. However, there is no Host/Host protocol way to synchronize simple enough for the TIP to use. What may be needed is a simple Host/Host protocol reset allocate command. We will try to understand this issue and, again, perhaps undertake promotion of a Host/Host protocol change.

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RFC # 386                                                     NIC #11358

The above two problems explain part of the "lost allocates" but
not all. We have now instrumented the TIP program in a manner which we hope will help us find the rest of the lost allocate problem soon.

The TIP's logger (opener?) has been causing users some problems.
Upon examination, the problems were seen to originate from basic design assumptions within the logger which we are working on changing. In the short term, however, we think that a discussion of what the logger is doing and how it works will alleviate some of the grief.

For the user, opening proceeds in three phases. In the first, the
user is queued up waiting to "get" the TIP's logger. In the second, the user has gotten the TIP's logger and is beginning the login sequence. In the third, the user has completed the login sequence and is waiting for the Host to open up the actual data connections. Many of the problems stem from the fact that _only_one_user_ may be proceeding through phase 2 at a time. Hence the need for the queue of phase 1. Any single user may tie up phase 2 for at most about 1 minute. This is the canonical "timeout" in the logger. Notice that this does not include the times in either the first or third phases. Thus, the actual delay before you get a "timeout" after you type @L can be 1 minute, 2 minutes, 3 minutes...depending on how many other people are having difficulty logging in at the same time. Abort Login (@A L) does three different things depending on which phase of logging in the user is in. In phase 2 it resets the timer to be close to overflowing so that it is responded to with a "timeout" shortly after the command is given. In phase 3 it does nothing at all, and in phase

1 it merely removes the user (silently) from the logging queue.

We will, medium term, have the TIP type out something like "YOUR
LOGGER" when you get off the queue and the logger begins trying to open your connections. This will at least alleviate user uncertainty as to whether he is in phase 1 or phase 2. Long term, we will probably make the logging process reentrant so that users will not interact with one another quite so destructively. In the short term, here is a small "cookbook" on how to undo a login that seems to not be working.

When you have waited as long as you would like to for the login
to take place, you may type "@A L". If the TIP responds with "TIMEOUT" in a few second and has not typed T OPEN or R OPEN, then you are aborted and may attempt logging in again. If it types "TIMEOUT" but has typed out T OPEN or R OPEN then you should type @C and wait for that to be responded to (You _must_ wait.) If you get no response at all to @A L, and the TIP has typed that one or the other connection is open, you should type @C and wait, as above. Finally, if the TIP makes no response and has not opened any connection, than you are free to proceed.

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RFC # 386                                                     NIC #11358

From now on the name of the DEVICE CODE EXECUPORT command will be
DEVICE CODE EXTRA-PADDING, since there are a number of other terminals which require this feature. The latest to be added to the list is the DATAPOINT 3300.

[ This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry ] [ into the online RFC archives by BBN Corp. under the ] [ direction of Alex McKenzie. 1/97 ]

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