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Elderly coworker: You know, I have to figure out how to take time off in January and February; I'm having cataracts surgery. You have to do one eye and then the other, so I have one in Jan. and one on Feb. 2nd, and I'm not sure if HR would want me to take all that time off or how she wants me to do it...
Me: Huh, funny, I am also having a surgery on Feb. 2nd. [Note: Date may be changed depending on maternal availability, we just made sure to have a date set to start with.]
Coworker: Oh really, what are you having surgery for? [Note the 2nd: I appear very young to elderly coworkers, who usually guess I'm late teens/early 20s... I guess I'm a super competent late teens and early 20s? WHY do they keep making me responsible for things? I don't wannnnnaaaa /vent. I also appear female.]
Me: Uh, right, that I am not willing to discuss. [goes back to other part of conversation] [Thinking: wait is it actually okay for people to just be all "OH COOL YOU'RE HAVING SURGERY TOO WHAT ARE YOU HAVING DONE?" Medical stuff isn't private?]
Coworker, a bit affronted: Oh... well, sounds serious. I wish you well.

I am sort of bewildered but also happy that I realized in time that just because I can mention I'm having a surgery does NOT mean that I have to disclose what it is, go me and recognizing my boundaries and respecting them! But also elderly coworkers who think everyone shares everything. And that I'm 19 or something. I'm turning 27 in January. Wasn't I supposed to have my life figured out by now? FUCK.

(I'm also annoyed because I can't share amusing anecdotes like this on Facebook because then my parents' friends and my aunt would freak out and then GO TO MY PARENTS to find out what's going on. Some of those people I would be fine telling them what's going on, some I would not - but don't put my parents in that position of being the person to decide whether to share what's going on with ME. That my aunt did that once especially aggravated me, as we do keep in touch and talk on the phone as often as we can. I guess I see Facebook as a place to share some stories, especially about the things I have a handle on, so if it's on Facebook I usually know how to handle it. It's not a crisis, so don't freak out about something offhand and talk to ME because I am likely to have a good answer.)

(Well, that parenthetical happened.)

Date: 2015-12-06 06:48 (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
Go you for keeping your boundaries defended!

*pom poms*

Date: 2015-12-06 10:57 (UTC)
ashkitty: a redhead and a couple black kitties (Default)
From: [personal profile] ashkitty
Obviously you do not have to tell anyone your medical stuff! But based on the conversation the way you described it, yeah, "I'm also having surgery" does come across as an invitation to ask.

Also, old people talk about their medical issues a lot more than younger people and probably don't really think of it as being nearly so private. So yes, definitely set your boundaries where you are comfortable with them! But I wouldn't be offended about this case. :)

Date: 2015-12-06 13:06 (UTC)
jelazakazone: black squid on a variegated red background (Default)
From: [personal profile] jelazakazone
For the record, when people say they are having surgery and then won't discuss it, it always seems really weird to me. I think you could say something vague like, "I'm having a structural anamoly fixed" and leave it at that. That way people are not left with a feeling of disquiet and you haven't disclosed anything you aren't comfortable saying.

Also, I'm 44 and still haven't figured out what the fuck I'm doing with my life. I'm starting to make peace with that.

And people always used to guess I was in the neighborhood of 8 years younger than I actually am. At least people no longer think I'm under 30 any more. However, between quilting and dancing, in those groups I still tend to be one of the youngest people in the room. ARGH. This has been going on for 20 years now. (less so in dancing, but still...)

Date: 2015-12-06 14:21 (UTC)
justhuman: Me smiling despite the loss of two front teeth (different)
From: [personal profile] justhuman
I'm almost 50 and don't worry about figuring out my life, I just go with it as it comes.

I don't think I have to describe how western culture has drifted very far from it's tribal roots. But there's interesting things to see when you look at cultures that are closer to their tribal roots.

In some parts of Africa, the greeting goes like this:

"My friend! How are you doing!"
"I am fine if you are fine."

Meaning that the responded would not be fine if their friend was hurting. That the health of every individual in the tribe relied on the health of every other person in the tribe.

So to me, your co-worker's question was natural - which does not obligate you in anyway to disclose your health issues. But I would take it that he was being empathetic and considering your relationship close enough that you were part of the same community.

Date: 2015-12-06 16:46 (UTC)
silveradept: A kodama with a trombone. The trombone is playing music, even though it is held in a rest position (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveradept
Good to realize boundaries and then keep them working.

Also, if I had my life worked out at this point, I'd probably be a lot happier and less in debt. As it is, I'm still fuxxored.

Re: Sympathies.

Date: 2015-12-07 08:00 (UTC)
silveradept: A kodama with a trombone. The trombone is playing music, even though it is held in a rest position (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveradept
I certainly agree with that. The pursuit of fame and money certainly don't get to happiness, but neither can they be entirely neglected...

Date: 2015-12-07 14:34 (UTC)
novel_machinist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] novel_machinist
I have no idea what's up, some people just overshare and some other ones.... I have no idea. I'm usually very open and friendly, but my medical stuff is, you know, mine.

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