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Always send a pingback when editing an entry to public security

Short, concise description of the idea
Whenever a user edits an entry to make it public, always send a pingback to any linked entries.

Full description of the idea
The original pingback behavior, when pingbacks were introduced last year, was to send a pingback to any linked entries whenever the entry was made public. This meant that you could either post publicly or you could edit an entry that had been posted friends or private (perhaps because of default security level) to public and a pingback woudl be sent to the other linked entry.

Sometime around release 69 this behavior was changed so that a pingback would not be sent, even if the entry was made public. This has two unfortunate effects. 1) Any user with a default security of friends-only or private will never send a pingback to another entry, and 2) anyone wishing to receive pingback notifications cannot trust that all links to their entries are being noted.

I propose changing the pingback system so that whenever an entry is made public, either originally posted as such or edited to public, that a pingback be sent to any linked entries.

An ordered list of benefits
  • Users linking to entries can be assured that the pingback will be sent.
  • Users who are being linked to can be assured that they're receiving all the pingbacks they should.
An ordered list of problems/issues involved
  • Loss of privacy - some people may like the ability to receive pingbacks without sending them, but that's not the intended behavior so I say they can just leave the entries locked if they don't want anyone else to know about them.
  • It might be harder on the pingback system to only check when an entry is made public versus whenever it's edited at all.
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Title
Make pingbacks respect ban

Short, concise description of the idea
Prior to posting a pingback, the pingback posting process should ponder prioritizing interpersonal prohibition. (Don't post a pingback when the pingee has banned the pinger.)

Full description of the idea
In theory, someone who has made a public post and has pingbacks turned on can get a pingback notice when someone who they have banned makes a public and pingback-enabled post linking to their post.

This is probably not such a good idea. The pingback process should, in addition to checking whether both posts are public and both posts are pingback-enabled, also check to make sure that the recipient has not banned the sender.

Please, do debate this one freely!

An ordered list of benefits
  • Stop a possible avenue of abuse before it gets properly started.
  • Make the effects of banning more consistent.
An ordered list of problems/issues involved
  • Pingbacks are posted by the pingback bot, not the banned user, so it's not as obvious that banning would potentially block pingbacks from that party.
  • Someone who is experiencing abuse via pingback can just turn off pingbacks.
  • People who are apt to be experiencing abuse via pingback have probably already turned it off, so relatively few people might benefit.
  • Someone might *want* to know when someone they have banned is talking about them in public.
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