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2025-11-12 Wed

#6043. ³ʤ New Edinburgh ǤϤʤ Dunedin ʤΤ [voicy][heldio][etymology][celtic][scottish_gaelic][onomastics][toponymy][dunedin][edinburgh][naming][history]

夲³ԡDunedin ؤβ̾ˤĤơThe Reed Dictionary of New Zealand Place Names dz (pp. 124--25) Ĵ٤ƤߤȡChambers Thomas Burns ζ̣ȤѤƤΤǡʲ˷Ǻܤ

Dunedin: Otago. The name originally intended for Otago's future capital was New Edinburgh, but at the happy suggestion of William Chambers --- then provost of Edinburgh, and one of the founders of the Edinburgh publishing house of W. & R. Chambers --- it was named Dunedin, which is the old Celtic form of the name of the capital of Scotland. When condemning the proposed title New Edinburgh, Chambers wrote:

The 'news' in North America are an utter abomination ... It will be a matter for regret if the New Zealand Company help to carry the nuisance to the territories with which it is concerned. If not finally resolved upon, I should strongly recommend a reconsideration of the name New Edinburgh, and the adoption of another, infinitely superior and yet equally allied to old Edinburgh. I mean the assumption of the name Dunedin, which is the ancient Celtic appellation of Edinburgh, and is now occasionally applied in poetic composition, and otherwise to the northern metropolis. (The New Zealand Journal, 8 July 1843, p. 170.)


Alfred H. Duncan wrote in The Wakatipians:

In the year 1860 Dunedin was but a small place of a few hundred inhabitants, and the streets were more like muddy swamps than anything else, and to that the city owed the name of Mud-Edin by which we were wont to call it in these days.


   According to A.H. McLintock in The History of Otago, Chamber's (sic) suggestion was not taken up because of a feeling that George Rennie, who had promoted the settlement scheme, and the name New Edinburgh, should not be offended. However as Rennie's influence on the Otago Settlement waned, Cargill was able to press for a name change, supported by the Rev. Thomas Burns who wrote to Cargill on 14 Feburary (sic) 1845, 'Let the settlement be called Otago --- the town Dunedin, the River Matou and not Molyneux and so forth, keeping to Native names. I suppose we cannot discard N. E. altogether at first --- if we can I wd. by all means do it. I like Otago, N.E. always put me in mind of R. [Rennie] (poor man! he must be a mortified wight.).'
   Oddly enough it seems to have been the renaming of the 'Matou' river which settled the issue. As the name Dunedin celebrated old Edinburgh, so the name Clutha, ancient name for the Clyde, complimented old Glasgow, and this, finally, seemed to meet with general approval.


ǥХĹơƥسĹˤʤ٤ʪˤǽŪʻٻФơNew դ̾äƤäȤˤʤ롥˥塼ɤˤϳΤ New ̾ʤ New Zealand ΤΤ New ޤޤƤΤϡ⤷

The Reed Dictionary of New Zealand Place Names. 2002 ed. Ed. Peter Dowling. Auckland: Reed, 2002.

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2025-11-11 Tue

#6042. ʤ New Edinburgh ǤϤʤ Dunedin ʤΤ [voicy][heldio][etymology][celtic][scottish_gaelic][onomastics][toponymy][dunedin][edinburgh][naming][history]



Voicy heldio ˤ#1623. ֥ˡǥפϥǥХθ̾ۿޤεϡβۿ˴ŤƤޤ
˥塼˰֤Į Dunedin ϡ18ȾФ˥åȥɰ̱ˤäۤ줿ĮǤꡤʬ䤹 New Edinburgh ȸƤФƤޤˡֿפ򴧤뤳̾ˤɽ椫ѤäDunedin ؤ֤뤳Ȥˤʤޤ̾ѹطʤˤϡ⤷ˤޤ
Dunedin Ȥ̾Ϥɤ褿ΤǤ礦رѸ츻ŵ٤ˤȡ̾ϥ "fort on the hill slope" ֵ֤ξɡפ̣ dùn eadain ͳ褷ζåȥɤμԥǥХؤǤषѤƤ Edinburgh ϡ줫ʬȤȤˤʤޤĤޤꡤDunedin Edinburgh θ̾̾Ȥʤޤ
̾ؤѹ򶯤䤷ΤǥХĹä William Chambers (1800--83) Ǥ Robert Ȥ˽Ǽ W. & R. Chambers ΩʪǤ⤢ޤƿ̱ϤDzԤƤ New Ȥ̾ǤȤƷäƤꡤ˥塼ɤĮˤϡˤͳ濫Ť̾ȹͤDunedin ƤΤǤ
Ƥ򼨤ʪ⤤ޤ1ͤåȥɼͳ (Free Church of Scotland) һդǤꡤ̱Ĥ濴ʪǤä Thomas Burns (1796--1871) ǤϸζƳԤȤƤΤߤʤ餺åȥɤɽ Robert Burns (1759--96) αȤڤġʸŪˤפʿʪǤ̾˴ؤǰϡǥХ餬ʸ̤ˡֵ֤ξɡפǤΤФˡǥϤǤϤʤȤˤޤǽŪˤϡϷʸŪŪؤβͤǧ졤ԻԤο̾ꤷޤ
ơ Thomas Burns طʤˤ롤åȥɼͳˤפǤ1843ǯΡʬ(Disruption) ˤơȸϤζؤδĤȿȯΩ뤿Ω夬äĹϷɤһդΰĤǤ϶ΩǤʤΩŻ뤷ºݤ Burns ϥ˥塼ɺǸŤؤǤ륿ˡǥˤ륪ء1869ǯΩˤνĹ̳᤿ʪǤ⤢äΤǤ
̾1ĤȤäƤ⡤طʤˤˤΥޥȿʹ֥ɥޤƤΤǤ͡åȥɤˤȸؤεͤޤä Dunedin Ȥ̾ˡƻפڤƤߤȻפޤ

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2024-02-12 Mon

#5404. ̾줫ϤޤäΤư줫ϤޤäΤ [homo_sapiens][origin_of_language][evolution][history_of_linguistics][grammaticalisation][noun][verb][category][name_project][onomastics][naming]

ɸϲ褷褦ΤʤǤϤ뤬ػ (history_of_linguistics) ˤƤϸε (origin_of_language) ᤰΤʤǻڤƤ䤤Ǥ롥
Mufwene (22) 򻲾Ȥơ2ͤԤȤθҲ𤷤ɥĤůؼ Johann Gottfried von Herder (1744--1803) ȥꥫθؼ William Dwight Whitney (1827--94) Ǥ롥

   Herder also speculated that language started with the practice of naming. He claimed that predicates, which denote activities and conditions, were the first names; nouns were derived from them . . . . He thus partly anticipated Heine and Kuteva (2007), who argue that grammar emerged gradually, through the grammaticization of nouns and verbs into grammatical markers, including complementizers, which make it possible to form complex sentences. An issue arising from Herder's position is whether nouns and verbs could not have emerged concurrently. . . .
   On the other hand, as hypothesized by William Dwight Whitney . . . , the original naming practice need not have entailed the distinction between nouns and verbs and the capacity to predicate. At the same time, naming may have amounted to pointing with (pre-)linguistic signs; predication may have started only after hominins were capable of describing states of affairs compositionally, combining word-size units in this case, rather than holophrastically.


Herder ϸ̾դ (naming) μϤޤäȹͤȤ̾դη̤ȤƤΡ̾פǽ̾ǤϤʤҸưäȤդϰճȯۤǶ̣Herder ϡ̾ϸư줫ΤǤȹͤϸʸˡ (grammaticalisation) ǤȤʸˡƤȯȤͤ˶ᤤ⤷ʤ
Whitney ϡư̾ζ̤Τʤʳǰɽ (holophrasis) ȯΤǤꡤޤǸˤʤäƤ餽ʸˡƤȯãȹͤ
쵯ʸˡϤΤ褦ˤƴطŤΤȴ补

Mufwene, Salikoko S. "The Origins and the Evolution of Language." Chapter 1 of The Oxford Handbook of the History of Linguistics. Ed. Keith Allan. Oxford: OUP, 2013. 13--52.

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2023-12-14 Thu

#5344. ̾դݤϤݥȡ̾ץȴ #2ۡ [name_project][onomastics][voicy][heldio][helwa][naming][notice]

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